What the New Testament really says is God wants you to be a renewed human being helping him to renew his creation, and his resurrection was the opening bell. And when he returns to fulfil the plan, you won't be going up there to him, he'll be coming down here.
How do the Christians here see this fitting with their concepts of Hell? If it's separation from God (which, and please correct me if I'm wrong, seems to the general concensus around here) and God will be here on Earth, where are all the disbelievers going to be?
If our ultimate orientation is "not God", but rather, self. What would become of us when God is all in all?
If God is ultimate reality and sin is essentially choosing ourselves over God (or self over love) what are we left with? I would argue that to choose self over God is essentially to choose nothing at all. And we will get what we asked for. But I think scripture tells us that we really will be "there" to get it. In other words we are not annihilated in the sense that we cease all existence.
Keep in mind there are all sorts of views on this within Christendom. I personally tend towards a view that argues that those who reject God for self essentially curve in on themselves.
This blog was created in December of 06 by Alex as a way for him to explore the big questions in life. Matt was invited on as a guest contributor since he has been offering up thoughtful questions from the very start. The conversations generally take the form of an ongoing dialogue exploring the potentially loaded topic of Christianity and Atheism. We pride ourselves on our respectful, honest, yet sometimes pointed exchanges. If there's anything we have been able to agree on thus far, it is that no matter what we may come to during the course of our discussions, nothing is worth resorting to insults and temper tantrums. We both find these topics fascinating and we encourage open and honest participation.
For as long as I've thought seriously about God I've been engaging those who see the world differently than I do. Usually, but not always, these folks are atheists. Through the course of my discussions I have perhaps learned (and been spurred on to learn) more than any other educational endeavor I've engaged in. About 6 months after starting this blog I quit my day job as a graphic designer to pursue a Masters Degree in Christian Thought. I should be finishing that up in 2010. I welcome all view points and encourage honest disagreement with me. Who knows, I just might learn something. (again)
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What the New Testament really says is God wants you to be a renewed human being helping him to renew his creation, and his resurrection was the opening bell. And when he returns to fulfil the plan, you won't be going up there to him, he'll be coming down here.
How do the Christians here see this fitting with their concepts of Hell? If it's separation from God (which, and please correct me if I'm wrong, seems to the general concensus around here) and God will be here on Earth, where are all the disbelievers going to be?
9:11 AM
If God will one day be all in all, what's left?
If our ultimate orientation is "not God", but rather, self. What would become of us when God is all in all?
If God is ultimate reality and sin is essentially choosing ourselves over God (or self over love) what are we left with? I would argue that to choose self over God is essentially to choose nothing at all. And we will get what we asked for. But I think scripture tells us that we really will be "there" to get it. In other words we are not annihilated in the sense that we cease all existence.
Keep in mind there are all sorts of views on this within Christendom. I personally tend towards a view that argues that those who reject God for self essentially curve in on themselves.
9:31 AM
I personally tend towards a view that argues that those who reject God for self essentially curve in on themselves.
I'm not quite sure what that means.
Sounds painful.
9:55 AM
I'm sure it probably is.
10:21 AM
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